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he had gotten ahold of her passport and her visa and all her immigration documents. she had asked for that stuff back, and he refused to give it to her. so she didn't have no idea where to go, what to do. >> he started to even yell at me for just no reason, didn't know what was going on. it went to the point when i was really afraid of him. >> julia soon realizes she is not alone. campbell had four other ukrainian women working at the spa. all were young and all were in the country illegally. >> they have to totally obey him, whatever he says. if not, they will have to pay for that. >> julia recalled she first witnessed campbell's brutality one night after campbell took his staff to dinner. >> they ended up taking pictures and in one of the pictures, one of the girls wasn't smiling to mr. campbell's liking. and he took them all back to the spa and proceeded to beat this girl and broke two pool sticks over her shins of her legs. >> a security system in campbell's office kept the girls under constant surveillance. >> the spa, there were cameras everywhere, so anything
he had gotten ahold of her passport and her visa and all her immigration documents. she had asked for that stuff back, and he refused to give it to her. so she didn't have no idea where to go, what to do. >> he started to even yell at me for just no reason, didn't know what was going on. it went to the point when i was really afraid of him. >> julia soon realizes she is not alone. campbell had four other ukrainian women working at the spa. all were young and all were in the country...
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like immigration, like a lot of things in implementing fully obama care? >> to me there's an interesting thing here of what comes between those two points. if you look at the speech he gave on economic justice wednesday, clearly the president has big ideas, has a big agenda. he's not done with that. these are things he's discussed from the very beginning since he began running in 2007. to me what was interesting in watching your interview yesterday was when he talked about republicans. it's not he's completely resigned to the obstructionism, that they've presented, but i didn't get a sense of a lot of fight. he talked about being persistent. but i think if he wants to rally those segments that robert talked about and he referred to at the interview, he has to be concrete in what he's asking people to rally behind. take some of these grand ideas that he talked about on wednesday that he's talked about before whether it's raising the minimum wage, expanding head start to get investment going. whatever he talked about, he has more credibility now with these n
like immigration, like a lot of things in implementing fully obama care? >> to me there's an interesting thing here of what comes between those two points. if you look at the speech he gave on economic justice wednesday, clearly the president has big ideas, has a big agenda. he's not done with that. these are things he's discussed from the very beginning since he began running in 2007. to me what was interesting in watching your interview yesterday was when he talked about republicans....
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because of immigration reform. fast and furious, not extending bush tax cuts, dream act, war in libya, gun control, benghazi. and quote, all the czars he's appointed. it's amazing. >> it's amazing that the kitchen sink isn't in there. >> i didn't get to it. >> maybe it is. maybe we haven't looked closely enough. i think ryan grim is right about this. this has never truly been about any of these issues. this is about nullification of this president. nullification of any of his agenda that's enacted including the affordable care act. it's never been about providing a health care to millions of uninsured americans. if that were true, americans would have come up with a counterplan. with a set of provisions they knew could provide insurance to people they knew needed health care. this isn't about that. if this was about benghazi, we would have been talking about bush lying his way into wars where thousands of our service members died. this is not about that. this is about delegitimatizing this president. and the second
because of immigration reform. fast and furious, not extending bush tax cuts, dream act, war in libya, gun control, benghazi. and quote, all the czars he's appointed. it's amazing. >> it's amazing that the kitchen sink isn't in there. >> i didn't get to it. >> maybe it is. maybe we haven't looked closely enough. i think ryan grim is right about this. this has never truly been about any of these issues. this is about nullification of this president. nullification of any of his...
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immigrants are people too. corporations are not. university of texas professor victoria soto, thanks for your time. >> take care. >> coming up, there are new reports that pope francis has a big secret, one other than the fact that he once worked as a nightclub bouncer. we have a look at what else the pontiff may be up to after dark just ahead. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions. if you mess up, fess up. be your partners best partner. we built it for our members, but it's open for everyone. there's not one way to do something. no details too small. american express open forum. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male an
immigrants are people too. corporations are not. university of texas professor victoria soto, thanks for your time. >> take care. >> coming up, there are new reports that pope francis has a big secret, one other than the fact that he once worked as a nightclub bouncer. we have a look at what else the pontiff may be up to after dark just ahead. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open...
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immigration is one of them, contraception. we can go down the list. >> i think if you're a politician running in 2014, the key is don't be part of washington. chris christie ran a great campaign because he did not think about the republican model or obama, he bashed everyone and i think those are the candidates who will do well next year. a democrat who says i'm not with obama and i'm also opposed to the tea party. that's the key, to stay away from either party because neither party is popular right now. >> i still think this is sort of what this whole distrust of government, disillusionment, it's going to have this huge impact that i don't think we quite understand and it's going to take us a yore to figure it out or more. anyway, thank you all. >>> coming up, my monday takeaway. some of the hillary clinton shadow campaign developments that you may have missed while you were in that turkey-induced coma. >>> first, white house soup of the day. at my house it's still turkey chili for a second day in a row. at the white house it
immigration is one of them, contraception. we can go down the list. >> i think if you're a politician running in 2014, the key is don't be part of washington. chris christie ran a great campaign because he did not think about the republican model or obama, he bashed everyone and i think those are the candidates who will do well next year. a democrat who says i'm not with obama and i'm also opposed to the tea party. that's the key, to stay away from either party because neither party is...
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. >>> and protesters tackling two major issues, immigration and the minimum wage. how pressure from the people could finally change washington. >>> good morning, i'm chris jansing. there's a major new push to focus positive attention on obama care, and it starts today. the kickoff is at the white house this afternoon. we'll hear from the president today, but the plan is to have a democrat or someone from the administration do something every single day until the december 23rd deadline. and just announced, this thursday the president will sit down with chris matthews at american university. the interview will air right here on msnbc's "hardball" at 7:00 p.m. eastern. again, that's thursday, december 5th. >>> and it appears to be the right time for a new pr campaign, considering that the website is doing better. a senior administration official says 750,000 people visited the site yesterday, and enrollment numbers obtained by nbc news show more than 100,000 signed up in november. let me bring in our company, molly ball, national political reporter for the atlantic, r
. >>> and protesters tackling two major issues, immigration and the minimum wage. how pressure from the people could finally change washington. >>> good morning, i'm chris jansing. there's a major new push to focus positive attention on obama care, and it starts today. the kickoff is at the white house this afternoon. we'll hear from the president today, but the plan is to have a democrat or someone from the administration do something every single day until the december 23rd...
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if we could get something done on immigration, that would be awesome. if we could lift the sequester and put forth a budget that could get people back to work, that would be good. i'm not cynical -- >> i'm not cynical either, in this universe in which we live, you and some of your colleagues have an idea for something the president could actually do by himself to increase wages for working people. what is that? >> well, you know, there are about 2 million workers who work for federal contractors. these contractors pay people sub standard wage, $7.45, no benefits, people have been on these jobs for literally years, and an executive order could solve this problem, and so we wrote a letter to the president about two months ago asking him to do something about it. and i gave another letter today. and you know, i think he is not sincere. he gave a wonderful speech about income inequality today. and he urged congress to raise the minimum wage, but in this congress i think we're going to have to look at what the executive can do and doing something with these
if we could get something done on immigration, that would be awesome. if we could lift the sequester and put forth a budget that could get people back to work, that would be good. i'm not cynical -- >> i'm not cynical either, in this universe in which we live, you and some of your colleagues have an idea for something the president could actually do by himself to increase wages for working people. what is that? >> well, you know, there are about 2 million workers who work for...
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immigration, minimum wage, voting rights. these are the things that they ought to be focusing on rather than this continual litany of over the top announcements of the president's political death. i think they're premature, and i think they waste the country's time. >>> ahead, a mother of three is sentenced to 20 years for a warning shot. tonight a major development in the marissa alexander case that you will want to hear. [ male announcer ] did you know that if you wear a partial, you're almost twice as likely to lose your supporting teeth? try poligrip for partials. poligrip helps minimize stress which may damage supporting teeth by stabilizing your partial. care for your partial. help protect your natural teeth. the day building a play set begins with a surprise twinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪ >>> we're back with a positive development in the case we've been following out of florida. marissa alexander was serving 20 years i
immigration, minimum wage, voting rights. these are the things that they ought to be focusing on rather than this continual litany of over the top announcements of the president's political death. i think they're premature, and i think they waste the country's time. >>> ahead, a mother of three is sentenced to 20 years for a warning shot. tonight a major development in the marissa alexander case that you will want to hear. [ male announcer ] did you know that if you wear a partial,...
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unless they're on a fast, like those who are fighting for comprehensive immigration. that's a protest. but let me tell you what happens when you don't feed children. in any country, including the united states of america, and it was a catholic priest, father cunningham that taught me this. children get angry. hunger brings about anger. this time is about salvation. you're the minister, but i learned in sunday school, god gave his only son so that we could all be saved. >> right, well, we ought to be angry about children hungry. not only are hungry children angry, we ought to be angry about that. but bill, let me tell you this, not only have those of us who are considered progressive been under attack. they're attacking the pope, now, for speaking up on issues like this. the pope. listen to what rush limbaugh had to say about the pope. >> the pope is ripping america. the pope is ripping capitalism. the pope ripping trickle down economics. and obama's having an orgasm. i tell you the way he means that. we've got too many rich people. we need more people who are poor and
unless they're on a fast, like those who are fighting for comprehensive immigration. that's a protest. but let me tell you what happens when you don't feed children. in any country, including the united states of america, and it was a catholic priest, father cunningham that taught me this. children get angry. hunger brings about anger. this time is about salvation. you're the minister, but i learned in sunday school, god gave his only son so that we could all be saved. >> right, well, we...
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she has eligible immigrant work status. on the day she started working there they came for her mom and brother. now she is having to leave her job. she is returning home to arizona now to help fight her mother's deportation. in a letter sent to her colleagues, she says the politically-charged immigration debate has always been personal for me and, and, in many ways, my life symbolizes the most controversial flashpoints of the debate. i have lost members of my community and family to deportations. i was awarded deferred action, and jan brewer took away my right to a drivers license. family separation by deportation. erica's mother's case is expected to come up for we view just after the new year in j january. it will decide whether or not she is allow todd stay in this country with her kids. joining us now is erica who is cofounder of the arizona dream act coalition and a former outreach director for arizona senator kristin sinema. >> can you tell me about this decision to leave the job at the congresswoman's office and head
she has eligible immigrant work status. on the day she started working there they came for her mom and brother. now she is having to leave her job. she is returning home to arizona now to help fight her mother's deportation. in a letter sent to her colleagues, she says the politically-charged immigration debate has always been personal for me and, and, in many ways, my life symbolizes the most controversial flashpoints of the debate. i have lost members of my community and family to...
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. >> every day he comes face-to-face with dozens of immigrant women from all across asia. >> i didn't see your i.d.s. massage i.d.s. >> many he expects are servants in the underground sex trade afraid to talk. >> no customers. >> quick to notice tell tale signs that legitimate massage parlors from prostitution. >> from the outside of the fa l facili facility. double doors or locked gates and cameras on the outside of the facility so they can view the whole sidewalk. >> hi, health department. how is everybody? you walk into the facility, you'll find girls improperly dressed. you'll find a number of like high heels, lingerie and you'll find condoms, lubricants. >> does anybody sleep here? >> nobody goes home? >> another indicator of human trafficking is any evidence that women are actually living on the business premsis like fully-stocked kitchens, mattresses and drawers stuffed. >> what do you need all these clothes for? fancy massage. special massage. >> today inspector walsh is following up on a tip that sex is for sale on the premsis of this massage parlor in the city's mission dist
. >> every day he comes face-to-face with dozens of immigrant women from all across asia. >> i didn't see your i.d.s. massage i.d.s. >> many he expects are servants in the underground sex trade afraid to talk. >> no customers. >> quick to notice tell tale signs that legitimate massage parlors from prostitution. >> from the outside of the fa l facili facility. double doors or locked gates and cameras on the outside of the facility so they can view the whole...
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heard the president talk about a lot of issues from income inequality to raising the minimum wage to immigration. what issues will be at the forefront of his agenda as we enter 2014? >> i think he would like to see something get done on minimum wage but i'm not sure much can get done. all eyes will turn to this budget deal between representsive ryan and murray to see if they can prevent another shutdown. >> thanks for your time as always, kevin. >> thanks for having me. >> this is "first look" on msnbc. stay with msnbc for more coverage of nelson mandela's death. "way too early" starts right now. >> i have challenan idea of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony. and -- and with equal opportunity. it is what i hope to live for and to achieve. but if need be it is for which i am prepared to die. >> nelson mandela, lived to see a free democracy in south africa. this morning, his passing at age 95 means different things to people in different generations, from starting out as a lawyer and man of action to political prisoner to symbol to historic leader, to an ic
heard the president talk about a lot of issues from income inequality to raising the minimum wage to immigration. what issues will be at the forefront of his agenda as we enter 2014? >> i think he would like to see something get done on minimum wage but i'm not sure much can get done. all eyes will turn to this budget deal between representsive ryan and murray to see if they can prevent another shutdown. >> thanks for your time as always, kevin. >> thanks for having me....
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i'm going to vote in the mid terms out of my own self interest, whether it's immigration, minimum wage, what have you. they really could have a problem. they've got to develop a positive agenda for themselves. the same time, the democrats will have a problem if they can't figure out how to nationalize 2014. in the past, they've run for cover in mid terms. >> right. >> every man and woman for himself or herself. >> they don't seem to be doing that now, though. >> national referendum on these issues. if they do, they have an outside chance of getting the house back. >> okay. well thank you so much, jonathan altar. and michael steele. we appreciate both of you. >> thanks. >>> and we are waiting for -- we are awaiting a press conference with the ntsb on the deadly metro north train derailment the, which is beginning right now. let's take a listen to what they are saying. >> this is preliminary information from the event recorders shows that the train was traveling at approximately 82 miles per hour as it went into a 30-mile-an-hour curve. that speed again was 82 miles per hour. at the entr
i'm going to vote in the mid terms out of my own self interest, whether it's immigration, minimum wage, what have you. they really could have a problem. they've got to develop a positive agenda for themselves. the same time, the democrats will have a problem if they can't figure out how to nationalize 2014. in the past, they've run for cover in mid terms. >> right. >> every man and woman for himself or herself. >> they don't seem to be doing that now, though. >> national...
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. >> whether it be immigration, marijuana, mandatory minimum, what is the remedy tore the legislative branch? >> i think the president has decided, congress can't challenge me, can't control me. >> congress will be left like a line like a constitutional landscape. >> he will spend money if he decides to. >> thomas, this is our statement here. i'll read it to you. if you would like. >> he'll write regulations if he decides to. >> the growth and opportunity project. >> and he will defy the constitution if he decides to. >> that's simply not true. >> the american people that have to rise up. >> let's get right to our panel. joining us now, krystal ball, co host of "the cycle" and james peterson at lehigh university. oh, krystal. uber president. oh, krystal, krystal, uber president. i can a lot of liberals would be surprised to find out this president was practically a monarch. >> he has like super powers. if i was artistically talented, i think there is a comic book angle here that could be interesting. >> okay. could be. >> but this is part of a long-standing conservative narrative ever
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that speaks to the power issues around immigration and economics and others that the community care about. both the democrats and republicans need to pay close attention to that. there is a comprehensive bill spending in the congress right now that needs to be attended to and passed and we need to move forward. those are the issues that they care about. if the parties ignore that, they will do so to their detriment. >> i top the go to the issue of student debt. that is something that not unexpectedly is viewed as a huge problem. you have 57% say it's a major problem and 22% say a minor problem. that's something that democrats have really tried to pounce on and move and make it one of the signature issues. either the president is slipping a lot about it. michelle obama said there was a new resource for counsellors and mentors. what can republicans do to grab that issue and try to make it part of their own? >> whether it's this issue or education more broadly or health care, i'm a republican and we have to speak to that issue and address student concerns. we will have different solutions th
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there is still a possibility of immigration reform. but right now, december 2013, tamron, this congress doesn't have anything to show for it other than resolving a government shutdown that lasted 16 days to be able to extend the nation's borrowing limit to just a couple of months. outside of that it doesn't have much to show for it. all of the work getting done, this congress really hasn't been able to tie its shoe laces. >> looking forward to the next year, it seems it's dreadful in that we're not seeing a change in tone of particularly from republicans on some of the things that many people thought we would see, particularly immigration reform. >> that's right, tamron, the one thing we'll look for is that change is possible. the tone that you have right now can be very different two months later. there are all of these events and circumstances that can change things. there are people hoping as bad as 2013 has been for all of the political players, 2014 is a better year. >> let's hope so. thank you very much. we appreciate it, mark. >
there is still a possibility of immigration reform. but right now, december 2013, tamron, this congress doesn't have anything to show for it other than resolving a government shutdown that lasted 16 days to be able to extend the nation's borrowing limit to just a couple of months. outside of that it doesn't have much to show for it. all of the work getting done, this congress really hasn't been able to tie its shoe laces. >> looking forward to the next year, it seems it's dreadful in that...
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as for omar obama, an immigration judge said he could stay in the country because he qualified for permanent residency. >>> the man once call called america's top cop back in the big apple. new york mayor elect bill deblass yo announced bill bratton as new yorks's police commissioner. he ran the police force 20 years ago and he vowed to repair the relationship between officers and minority neighborhoods amid the nypd's controversial stop and frisk program, a tactic he has embraced in the pass while the incoming mayor has criticized it, bratton said a book he read when he was 9 will guide him on his new beat. >> i checked this thing out so often that i don't think anybody else in boston ever saw it. it is a book about the new york city police department of 1956 and i loved the title "your police." in this city, i want every new yorker to talk about their police, my police, with respect and with confidence that they are going to be respected. >> bratton has led the boston and los angeles police departments. >>> pope francis bringing another big change to the catholic church. the pontiff just l
as for omar obama, an immigration judge said he could stay in the country because he qualified for permanent residency. >>> the man once call called america's top cop back in the big apple. new york mayor elect bill deblass yo announced bill bratton as new yorks's police commissioner. he ran the police force 20 years ago and he vowed to repair the relationship between officers and minority neighborhoods amid the nypd's controversial stop and frisk program, a tactic he has embraced in...
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. >> infrastructure, the 2014 budget, immigration reform, minimum wage, unemployment insurance, farm bill. and we have the brady background check, and there are other issues as well. >> so from now until the end of this session, i'll have the counter factual congress, minimum wage, farm bill, restoring food stamp cuts, expanding social security, extending unemployment insurance. every day we're going to take a look at a world in which republicans in congress want to do their job. tomorrow we will bring you the first installment, so tune in. [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets. [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. [ coyote howls ] how about no more surprises? now you can get all the online trading tools you need without any surprise fees. ♪ it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. y restarting it? no, not that. i was thinking about getting a tablet as a gift... verizon has tablets. they got a lot of them? accessing brain informatio
. >> infrastructure, the 2014 budget, immigration reform, minimum wage, unemployment insurance, farm bill. and we have the brady background check, and there are other issues as well. >> so from now until the end of this session, i'll have the counter factual congress, minimum wage, farm bill, restoring food stamp cuts, expanding social security, extending unemployment insurance. every day we're going to take a look at a world in which republicans in congress want to do their job....
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immigration does not look likely. >> 179 hours left. nice to see you. thanks. >>> coming up bill karins and richard lui will join us for "first buzz" a b.a.s.e. jumper's brush with death. >>> also miley cyrus brings remember wrecking ball to the jingle ball. we'll tell you all about it next. and compare costs. it doesn't usually work that way with health care. but with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and estimates for how much i'll pay. that helps me, and my guys, make better decisions. i don't like guesses with my business, and definitely not with our health. innovations that work for you. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. mom? come in here. come in where? welcome to my mom cave. wow. sit down. you need some campbell's chunky soup before today's big game, new chunky cheeseburger. mmm. i love cheeseburgers. i know you do. when did you get this place? when i negotiated your new contract, it was part of the deal. cool. [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. you may be mud
immigration does not look likely. >> 179 hours left. nice to see you. thanks. >>> coming up bill karins and richard lui will join us for "first buzz" a b.a.s.e. jumper's brush with death. >>> also miley cyrus brings remember wrecking ball to the jingle ball. we'll tell you all about it next. and compare costs. it doesn't usually work that way with health care. but with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and estimates...
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new jersey governor chris christie is forcefully denying that he's flipped his position on immigration. he ran his 2013 re-election campaign in support of legislation to provide instate tuition for young, undocumented students. the legislation commonly known as the dream act is about to be sent to his desk by the state legislature. but now, the governor says it goes too far and is refusing to sign it. on sunday, "the star ledger," new jersey's largest newspaper, accused christie of flip-flopping. the editorial board cited his 2016 presidential ambitions. >>> the republican-led house is expected to approve a ten-year extension today to an existing ban on plastic guns. these are weapons made from so-called 3d printers that go undetected by metal detectors. democrats say they'll back the plan, but some say they favor making that ban permanent. >>> washington, d.c.'s mayor could have a bumpy road towards re-election. embattled democrat vincent bray said monday that he'll run for a second term next year. four of his high-level aides have pleaded guilty to felonies, including two who receive
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activists were fasting for immigration reform. the fast for families began on november 12th and has received support from the highest democratic leaders in the country including the president and first lady. joining us from washington, d.c., where he just ended his fast is executive director of dream director, phillip agnew. nice to have you. >> thanks for having me. good morning. >> so start by telling me about what the fast for families movement is and what it hopes to achieve. >> yeah so, for 26 days fasters have been on the capitol, at the capitol, in a tent, pushing lawmakers to do something, to make a move on immigration reform. there's no food. there's just water. and it's a wide group of people determined to stand in solidarity to deny those basic needs to ourselves so that other people can have a pathway to citizenship in a country that says that it's the land of opportunity for all people. >> phillip, the use of fasting and of hunger strikes to bring about policy change is one that has a deep, even international traditio
activists were fasting for immigration reform. the fast for families began on november 12th and has received support from the highest democratic leaders in the country including the president and first lady. joining us from washington, d.c., where he just ended his fast is executive director of dream director, phillip agnew. nice to have you. >> thanks for having me. good morning. >> so start by telling me about what the fast for families movement is and what it hopes to achieve....
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immigration advocates want a budget deal so maybe they can move on from talking about immigration reform or talking about the farm bill, which is hugely important. we haven't really heard a lot about it. >> to your point, an interesting number, in paul ryan's original budget which everyone decried as incredibly conservative budget, the expected spending in 2014 was 1.09 trillion. we will end up with about $1 trillion if wets a deal, less than the original paul ryan budget. the debate has clearly been shifted. paul ryan had different assets delivering more to defense, nondiscretionary but clearly in a place where what we value as increased spending is relative to where we were incredibly low. >> robert, the president has been on a messaging campaign about fairness. his i thought great to osawatomie. >> potato potato. >> also an extension of the knox college speech in 2007. >> these are the themes, i think, of his presidency. also going into the second half of the second term and they couldn't come at a more important time. not only is the economy in a certain place, i think a lot of peopl
immigration advocates want a budget deal so maybe they can move on from talking about immigration reform or talking about the farm bill, which is hugely important. we haven't really heard a lot about it. >> to your point, an interesting number, in paul ryan's original budget which everyone decried as incredibly conservative budget, the expected spending in 2014 was 1.09 trillion. we will end up with about $1 trillion if wets a deal, less than the original paul ryan budget. the debate has...
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every bill that has come over from the senate side has been dead on arrival, whether it was immigration or fairness in internet sales tax. all of these measures coming over from the senate are literally wilting here, because the committee system on the house side is unwilling to take these measures up. so i think he is looking through a different lens. >> well, your colleagues on the other side of the aisle actually do have an idea that they want to put forward. and it would ease sequestration, a couple measure of the republican house caucus would like to ease sequestration by cutting social security. is that the kind of seriousness that americans are looking for out of congress, or in a way, should americans be kind of glad they're not getting a lot done because that's the kind of thing they want to do? >> well, good point. but that is -- in my view, dead on arrival, both among democrats and in the senate. to somehow say we want to ease sequestration so we can line the pockets of defense contractors and by the way we're going to do it on the backs of senior citizens in this country, is
every bill that has come over from the senate side has been dead on arrival, whether it was immigration or fairness in internet sales tax. all of these measures coming over from the senate are literally wilting here, because the committee system on the house side is unwilling to take these measures up. so i think he is looking through a different lens. >> well, your colleagues on the other side of the aisle actually do have an idea that they want to put forward. and it would ease...
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frankly the nationalization immigration law, once you labeled someone on a terrorist, it's very difficult to take them off. and that did happen as you said in 2008, it took an act of congress. we actually had to pass legislation, condoleezza went to the hill and asked them to pass the legislation and finally president bush signed that law, signed that legislation into law. but today, i understand from many high ranking anc officials homeland security continues to treat some of them as needing a waiver to get into the united states, which is an embarrassment and what secretary rice said today, at the time, we can't allow president mandela, a man of his stature to be continue to be treated as a terrorist by the united states. we needed to do this and do it before he passed away. but also, we need to honor his memory today by also making sure that homeland security honors of legislation that secretary kerry and for that matter senator obama when they were both senators, helped to pass. so, yes, officially they are off the terror list but the way in which homeland security continues to interp
frankly the nationalization immigration law, once you labeled someone on a terrorist, it's very difficult to take them off. and that did happen as you said in 2008, it took an act of congress. we actually had to pass legislation, condoleezza went to the hill and asked them to pass the legislation and finally president bush signed that law, signed that legislation into law. but today, i understand from many high ranking anc officials homeland security continues to treat some of them as needing a...
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if you're not willing to deal with the issues of immigration, of affirmative action, of reform of our housing markets, then you're not really serious about the issues of race in america. >> well, what i find interesting politically about the republicans here is they don't have any point person that is going to get a lot of media attention, and focus on minority outreach. and research and clarification. they don't have a go-to person on this, which tells me that certainly they're not genuine about it at all. now, in may 2013 survey done by the pew research center found that 88% of african-americans and 57% of whites felt that there is at least some discrimination towards african-americans. are things getting better, or are they getting worse, zerlina? >> i don't think they're getting better. i wouldn't say that we are where we were in 1955. of course that's not true. but i think there are a number of different things. as michael pointed out, there are pervasive problems that exist in our society. you know, outcomes are not equal for people of color. when you are born, the zip code in w
if you're not willing to deal with the issues of immigration, of affirmative action, of reform of our housing markets, then you're not really serious about the issues of race in america. >> well, what i find interesting politically about the republicans here is they don't have any point person that is going to get a lot of media attention, and focus on minority outreach. and research and clarification. they don't have a go-to person on this, which tells me that certainly they're not...
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week we've been showing you what the world will be like if we had a bizarro congress if they passed immigration reform. unfortunately we do not have one. we have john boehner's terrible do-nothing congress. if you're frustrated about that, you're not alone. a few nights ago democrats were calling for the passage of a comprehensive reform bill. they were sitting it the house gallery which got him reprimanded, and that's when the democratic congressman stepped in. >> the men and women spending their time here would not have to be in those galleries advocating if this house simply took up the bill. you think they want to be spending their time here, madam speaker? is what what you think? probably traveling at their own expense to washington? and you're saying we're addressing them, and that's what you're upset about, madam speaker? i want you to address the reason that they are here! they are here because our government is tearing apart their families, madam speaker. >> will the gentleman from colorado understand aull members -- >> i want the speaker to understand that the speaker is obstructing h
week we've been showing you what the world will be like if we had a bizarro congress if they passed immigration reform. unfortunately we do not have one. we have john boehner's terrible do-nothing congress. if you're frustrated about that, you're not alone. a few nights ago democrats were calling for the passage of a comprehensive reform bill. they were sitting it the house gallery which got him reprimanded, and that's when the democratic congressman stepped in. >> the men and women...
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there's been some amazing bipartisan votes in the senate, comprehensive immigration reform one of them, the enda bill that came out of there, but it's been a tough slog. you've got a few weeks left in the year, and the notion that this is going to be prioritized, there's going to be this push by bipartisan senators to get tougher sanctions on iran when the white house is explicitly saying no to me, that looks -- i just don't understand. is it the case that senators are going home to their states and people are standing up at town halls saying we need stronger sanctions on iran? why is this such a priority? >> listen, you have 47 million americans who have lost food stamp benefits, who are potentially going hungry this holiday season, you have farms that are going to shut down some time next year without a farm bill being passed. you're exactly right, there are bigger priorities. now, what my friends on both sides of the aisle will say is that, no, wait, we need to do this right now so that if the negotiations fall apart some time next year, we're right there immediately with tough, new
there's been some amazing bipartisan votes in the senate, comprehensive immigration reform one of them, the enda bill that came out of there, but it's been a tough slog. you've got a few weeks left in the year, and the notion that this is going to be prioritized, there's going to be this push by bipartisan senators to get tougher sanctions on iran when the white house is explicitly saying no to me, that looks -- i just don't understand. is it the case that senators are going home to their...
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and a tactical shift in the ongoing fight for immigration reform. first understanding the impact and importance of president nelson mandela. >> i pledge to use all my strength and ability to live up to
and a tactical shift in the ongoing fight for immigration reform. first understanding the impact and importance of president nelson mandela. >> i pledge to use all my strength and ability to live up to
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. >>> and protesters tackling two major issues, immigration and the minimum wage. how pressure from the people could finally change washington. >>> good morning, i'm chris jansing. there's a major new push to focus positive attention on obama care, and it starts today. the kickoff is at the white house this afternoon. we'll hear from the president today, but the plan is to have a democrat or someone from the administration do something every single day until the december 23rd deadline. and just announced, this thursday the president will sit down with chris matthews at american university. the interview will air right here on msnbc's "hardball" at 7:00 p.m. eastern. again, that's thursday, december 5th. >>> and it appears to be the right time for a
. >>> and protesters tackling two major issues, immigration and the minimum wage. how pressure from the people could finally change washington. >>> good morning, i'm chris jansing. there's a major new push to focus positive attention on obama care, and it starts today. the kickoff is at the white house this afternoon. we'll hear from the president today, but the plan is to have a democrat or someone from the administration do something every single day until the december 23rd...
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. >> but this time on obama care, immigration, i absolutely agree with bill o'reilly. >> all they do is say no. the party of no. >> the republican party does have a branding problem. >> a few todd akins and richard murdochs. >> they've had one for years. >> maybe a witch or two will get nominated. >> i'm not a witch. >> talking about a potential 2016 presidential candidates. >> what's new? >> do you know what they had in common? >> i remember goldwater, rockefeller. >> they were all white. >> reagan. >> where was allen west? where was dr. ben carson? and have they ruled out the possibility that i might consider another run? >> don't rule it out. let's get to our panel. joining us now is karen finney, host of "disrupt with karen finney" on msnbc and james peterson, director of african studies at lehigh university. welcome to you both. talk to me. there are many up this cycle. and half of them in the whole group facing these primary challenges. and this raises a theological question for republicans, the 11th commandment,000 shall not speak ill. isn't it hard to do that if half are in i
. >> but this time on obama care, immigration, i absolutely agree with bill o'reilly. >> all they do is say no. the party of no. >> the republican party does have a branding problem. >> a few todd akins and richard murdochs. >> they've had one for years. >> maybe a witch or two will get nominated. >> i'm not a witch. >> talking about a potential 2016 presidential candidates. >> what's new? >> do you know what they had in common?...
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in other people's kitchens when they're poor and working class and latino and african-american and immigrant women. yet, i was about to sort of push back against that, and yet the men who are there are not necessarily, for the most part, from those communities. but stay with us, because it's not exclusively a republican issue, and in fact, i think our vice president, joe biden, might be able to teach republicans a few things about running against women. >>> republicans aren't the only ones that have to tread carefully when running against women. let's compare vice president joe biden's performance in his debates in 2008 and in 2012. here he is in attack dog mode against congressman paul ryan last year. >> we have these sanctions in place. it's in spite of their opposition -- >> oh, god. >> they've given 20 waivers to this sanction. under a romney administration, we will have credibility on this issue. >> vice president biden? >> it's incredible. when governor romney's asked about it, he's said, we've got to keep these sanctions. and he's said, you're talking about doing more. are you going t
in other people's kitchens when they're poor and working class and latino and african-american and immigrant women. yet, i was about to sort of push back against that, and yet the men who are there are not necessarily, for the most part, from those communities. but stay with us, because it's not exclusively a republican issue, and in fact, i think our vice president, joe biden, might be able to teach republicans a few things about running against women. >>> republicans aren't the only...
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he was an glesh immigrant to america. actually went to fran and played an important part in their revolution or in making the case for it to the ghesh speaking world and really made a case for believeing that reason could lead to progress. he was a great believer in the promise of the enlighten. . edward burke, an english statesman, a member of parliament made the case that you can't just start over from scratch. you can't expect pure reason, abstract reason to lead you to the good society. you have as to start from where yoir society puts you. you have to think about what change means in practice and social life. how to make it livable. how to take your society as it is and improve it rather than think you can do better from scratch. >> there are conservatives, though, people who identify themselves as conservatives today who may relate temperamentally more than payne and burke and be offended by the fact that burke like russell kirk, like william f. buckley said you take the world as you find it and you try to make it b
he was an glesh immigrant to america. actually went to fran and played an important part in their revolution or in making the case for it to the ghesh speaking world and really made a case for believeing that reason could lead to progress. he was a great believer in the promise of the enlighten. . edward burke, an english statesman, a member of parliament made the case that you can't just start over from scratch. you can't expect pure reason, abstract reason to lead you to the good society. you...